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Big_Boyz_Toyz
06-20-2005, 09:10 PM
What is the stock pin height on a stock 500 piston.

Ted in Olympia WA
06-20-2005, 09:40 PM
Here you go, I hopes this helps.

http://www.beckracing.com/slvpg19.htm

TED

dave_brode
06-21-2005, 06:35 PM
Big_Boyz_Toyz,

1.910", iirc.
Dave



"]What is the stock pin height on a stock 500 piston.[/quote]

MilesO
06-21-2005, 09:58 PM
Ted,
Thanks for the useful link.

Miles

dave_brode
06-22-2005, 06:44 PM
Miles/All,

Realize that most aftermarket pistons are normally 10-20 thou shorter than oem pistons. Note that the silvolites are 1.882"/1.883", whereas the KBs are 1.900", which is the tallest non-oem that I've seen. The oem 500s that I measured were 1.910", iirc.
Dave

MilesO
06-22-2005, 07:03 PM
Dave,
Yes, I have noted the difference in comp. ht. between manufacturers..not comparing them to 'stock' since I am not going back to stock..but it would make a difference in compression for sure..thanks for the reminder. Your willingness to share your knowledge is also appreciated.

Miles

dave_brode
06-22-2005, 07:12 PM
Miles,
Thanks. Esp when using the thicker Cortecos, a taller pistons would help.
The piston down the hole will make the engine ping prone. Most experts say that quench in the 60-100 thou range is very bad. Even with oem pistons and thinner Felpros, the block will need a little whacking.
Dave




O"]Dave,
Yes, I have noted the difference in comp. ht. between manufacturers..not comparing them to 'stock' since I am not going back to stock..but it would make a difference in compression for sure..thanks for the reminder. Your willingness to share your knowledge is also appreciated.

Miles[/quote]

MilesO
06-22-2005, 09:18 PM
Dave,
What would you feel is a safe minimum quench dimension piston top to head regardless of the gasket used ? 5000 rpm max, 7" Olds rod , forged piston w/28.5cc dish, small chamber head.
Thanks
Miles

Andy V
06-23-2005, 04:15 AM
Don't want to answer for Dave, but I would say .035" as a min.
I'm building a motor now with Corteco's and I left the piston .003 out of the hole. Should have clearance to the head around .047"

I'll probably spin this to 5500-5800

dave_brode
06-23-2005, 01:09 PM
Andy/Miles,

I agree that .035" should be safe, but fwiw, I'd shoot for .040"-.045".
Some experts claim that a too tight quench can cause quarks in the combustion process too. On the other hand, I'd much rather have .035" than .075".
Dave



Don't want to answer for Dave, but I would say .035" as a min.
I'm building a motor now with Corteco's and I left the piston .003 out of the hole. Should have clearance to the head around .047"

I'll probably spin this to 5500-5800

cadillac512
06-23-2005, 03:30 PM
Hey Dave...
What's a "quark"? I don't know if I want 'em in my combustion process...... :wink:

Terry

~JM~
06-23-2005, 03:35 PM
I don't know what a quark is...

but I once worked with a carpenter from Boston once, who liked to round everything off to the nearest qwata.

~JM~

STDog
06-23-2005, 04:04 PM
Hey Dave...
What's a "quark"?

Aren't the sub-atomic particles of some sort...

MilesO
06-23-2005, 04:50 PM
I'm inclined to go with sub-atomic particle.. Google will know where to go to know fersur..

MilesO
06-23-2005, 05:56 PM
Quarks

http://www.google.com/search?biw=780&hl=en&q=quarks

DOC
06-24-2005, 08:39 AM
Wow. Dave B., I'm empressed. I thought for sure that Quark was a bar owner on the prominade deck of Deep Space Nine. I thought I had edumaction, hmm.. eddukation hmm.. edifkation hmm...oh hell, some good learnin', but, I missed that one.

DOC

dave_brode
06-25-2005, 03:03 PM
Hi Terry,
Maybe is querk, or "weird thing that happens".

Sort of unexplained phenominom [sp?]. Part science, part black magic. If a bad quark occurs, the engine can become FUBAR, a bad thing. <grin
Dave


Hey Dave...
What's a "quark"? I don't know if I want 'em in my combustion process...... :wink:

Terry

cadillac512
06-25-2005, 06:50 PM
Ahhh,yes....."Quirk" :D

I knew that's what you meant but just thought I might stir up a bit of trouble.As usual,the inquiring minds of CB7 did not disappoint! We even left the galaxy for a moment.... :!:
Terry lol

dave_brode
06-25-2005, 07:00 PM
Hi Terry,

LOL. Yes, there are some fart smellers here.

Actually, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "quark". I bet that one would probably cause the engine to be fubar quicker than a quirk.

Btw - encarta says: quirk = odd event.
Dave

Ahhh,yes....."Quirk" :D

I knew that's what you meant but just thought I might stir up a bit of trouble.As usual,the inquiring minds of CB7 did not disappoint! We even left the galaxy for a moment.... :!:
Terry lol