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Terrible One
08-03-2005, 03:22 AM
Hey guys, I'm new as you may notice.

Here is my story if you are bored enough to read it:

I recently inherited my grandfathers 1976 Cadillac ElDorado. Well since I have a huge interest in mechanics, engines, and the works, I proceded to tear it down and fix a few things. Firstly, someone had put gaskets on the exhaust manifolds, which had burnt away, leaving a huge gap and a mean exhaust leak. Anyways, once I finally broke loose all but 4 exhaust manifold bolts, it had been a month of workign iwth them. I decided the others were no use and snapped them. Took the heads off and took them to the machine shop to get rethreaded. In the process we discovered a HUGE amount of play in the valves. Someone had installed cheap valve guides which were completly dogged out by then. Anyways, we opted to get teh heads rebuilt. In the meantime, we found some scratching in the cylinder walls. Also included in this find were the leaky rear and front seals, etc.

All in all, it led up to pulling what was left of the engine and doing a complete rebuild. Because we were going to spend so much money on it anyways, I decided to go all in and make it a beast. As of right now, the transmission is being rebuilt and repaired, and then beefed up to handle the new engine numbers. After the heads are rebuilt, on will go either a modified stock intake (almost equal to teh edelbrock) or if it comes down to it, a bulldog intake and holley dominator carb. Because we have to bore it anyways, we are going to bore it out to an enormous size (still not sure how far we are going). Of course then we will find the right pistons, rods, and bearings for the project, etc. Then goes the new cam. Whilst all of this is taking place, the original log manifolds will be sent off to be ceramic coated. Once the engien is back in a custom dual exhaust will be in order.

What I plan to do whilst the engine and transmission are out is repaint the frame, a-arms, etc gloss black, get new front shocks, and replace all of teh worn convuluted wire tubing. Now, of course, I coudl always paint everything the original dark Cadillac blue, but I kind of wanted to make it interesting, something abnormal. I have been thinking of a dark purple.I plan to paint the pan, block, and heads purple, with the intake being painted gloss black, along with chrome valve covers and K&N air cleaner. The tranny will be painted as well. I have also managed to find a 100 amp purple alternator to go along with it. This is all, of course, if I don't just go original. I'm a creative person, what can I say?

I want the engine bay to be it's own creation. I want it to look normal on the outside, but when you open up the hood you can't help but notice how pretty it looks. The looks combined with all of the power she will be putting out will be amazing to me. Hopefully it will all work out.


Any suggestions I am pleased to have. Hopefully we will be done by November or December.

I look forward to talking with everyone and getting help with this project as well as dishing out my own.

Muki
08-03-2005, 05:07 AM
I'd say go for the dark purple. It will look surprisingly good although it might not cater to everyone's taste.

Some ten years ago we painted a V8 diesel engine - that was being overhauled - pink. Yes, pink as in Pink Panther.

The customer was luckily equipped with a lot of humour and actually liked it.

But I have painted some engines dark purple and they have all looked good to my liking. It also depends a lot on the rest of the color selection for the car.

This season's racing engine has been painted army gray. Again, some like it some hate it.

Somehow I just can't paint engines in the "normal" colors.

campagna
08-03-2005, 06:25 AM
Watch out for the front wheel bearings. If they are over 50000 miles old, they will need to be replaced. Housings have no zerk fittings, so drill and tap for them. Precision grind the hubs and knuckles, hard chrome plate the surfaces, and grind to stiff press fit size. Contact me if you need help.
Nick

Terrible One
08-03-2005, 06:47 AM
Nick,

Thanks for the quick reply. One of the bearings (passenger side, I believe) was replaced about 30 miles ago. I'll get her on the stand today and check the other.

Please tell me more about or email me about all the rest. Those are unfamiliar terms to me. [email protected]

Thanks!

STDog
08-03-2005, 07:21 AM
What I plan to do whilst the engine and transmission are out is repaint the frame, a-arms, etc gloss black, get new front shocks, and replace all of teh worn convuluted wire tubing.

Gloss black is wrong. You want a semi-gloss under the hood. And of course all the cadillac blue you can do. I just rebuilt my engine, and painted the part, everythink except the air filter housing and heat riser (which should be black on the 1970 engines).

Then again, just getting everything the same color helps a lot, especially removing the rust colored water pump and intake. Oh, and the exhaust manifolds are VHT black.

cadfor
08-03-2005, 08:26 AM
Go with the dark purple but you should us the semi-gloss black on all frame and chassis parts, fender wells too. It will make the motor stand out even more.

Terrible One
08-03-2005, 12:55 PM
Everyone, thanks for the replies. Will do the semi gloss on the frame. I was thinking of pink for the engine but kind of wanted to go for the darker, but still bright color, if you knwo what I mean. I think I am going to go for it. It will be unique and hopefulyl look the way I plan for it to.

I think that I am going to get the "partial frame restoration kit" or whatever from Eastwood. http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/search/searchresultsmain.jsp?fresh=1&searchType=advanced&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&attribute14=0&attribute15=0&attribute16=0&RS=1&keyword=frame

Any suggestions about anything else to do to the engine bay or anything in it/associated with it? Haha.

Thanks a lot guys.

STDog
08-03-2005, 01:07 PM
Any suggestions about anything else to do to the engine bay or anything in it/associated with it? Haha.

Thanks a lot guys.
I've heard good things anbout POR's Chassis Coat
http://www.por15.com/product.asp?productid=209

A bit more expensive though.

Terrible One
08-03-2005, 03:00 PM
How much paint do you think I would need to do the entire part of the frame that is seen in the engine bay?

Terrible One
08-03-2005, 09:17 PM
Also, Muki

Where did you get the purple paint that you used on the engines you painted purple?

Muki
08-04-2005, 09:04 AM
Woah, that was a LOOONNGG time ago and even so it was in Finland :D so it might not be practical to you. Even the buddy I was assisting in the overhaul is dead now.

I still have a faint memory that it was actually available from VHT engine paint product line.

Hope this helps...

Muki

STDog
08-04-2005, 10:14 AM
I still have a faint memory that it was actually available from VHT engine paint product line.

VHT Engine paints http://72.10.43.141/engineenamels.htm

The Summit (http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp?part=VHT-SP136) site has pictuires of most color caps. and Caswell (http://www.caswellplating.com/vht/vht_high.htm) has a nice puicture of all the colors.

Not sure any of them are the color Terrible One is after though.

Terrible One
08-04-2005, 11:12 AM
Thanks for all of the help guys! The closest I saw was Lavender, but I did see a hot pink there :wink:

I know that I have seen or heard of someone that sells engine enamel in plum crazy purple. That is more of what I am looking for. Darker colors.

Okay just typed in plum purple engine enamel and found that Duplicolor sells it. Is 500 degrees protection enough? For sure? I don't want to have a pretty engine if it is going to end up baking itself ugly again. :lol:

I really appreciate all of the help guys.

STDog
08-04-2005, 11:23 AM
Okay just typed in plum purple engine enamel and found that Duplicolor sells it. Is 500 degrees protection enough?

I used Duplicolor black on my oil pan a few years ago, and it was a pain to get off when I got ready to do it all in Cad Blue. Held up fine for that and the flexplate dust cover. Not Sure about hotter areas though.

Muki
08-04-2005, 02:03 PM
The dark purple color we used back then was VERY much like MoPar plum. Which brings to my mind also that I did paint one slant six pink.

Terrible One
08-04-2005, 04:48 PM
Yes, the Mopar plum purple is the color I am going for, but all I see in VHT's lineup is a lavendar.

I just wonder if temperatures of over 500 degrees will be reached on the block. I know it will be fine on the heads, pan, and transmission.

Muki
08-05-2005, 12:48 AM
I recall the "Maliboo" had a purple Cad engine ? There were some photos at another Cad site awhile ago. It was I think a 79 or so Malibu which had the front end of the car lengthened a bit. Did have paxtons or something equivalent to "huff around" a bit.

Andy V
08-05-2005, 04:28 AM
no purple on that engine, but the car is purple.....

Terrible One
08-05-2005, 10:17 AM
It's not purple, but it is nice!

Muki
08-06-2005, 01:07 PM
Hi Andy V. - noticed you from Harrisburg - I spent '85-'86 in Carlisle. Maybe that blurred my color vision or memory - heheh - you're right about Maliboo.

Andy V
08-12-2005, 04:48 AM
Muki, yeah I hear living in Carlisle can mess with your vision....hehe.

I do have 2 other pics of the Maliboo, I think I pulled these from Potter's album some time ago.

Terrible One
08-12-2005, 08:48 AM
That's awesome.

Any idea on the specs?